school. later if you look at jeremiah wright, there are common themes running through all of these guys. then i just take the ideology of the father and i compare it with the actions of the son. and i say, look, it's like a detective story. does the jigsaw fit? and it turns out that if you look at obama's actions, even now in the middle east, it looks like what he's trying to do is scale back american power, and allow indigenous influence within the region to gain power. >> you draw a lot of parallels with yourself, and obama. i want to watch a little bit about that and i wonder why. >> we were both born in the same year, which is 1961. we both went to an ivy league school. in his case columbia, later harvard. in my case dartmouth. we got our bachelor's degree, we graduated the same year, '83. we were married in the same year, 1992. we both have a kind of mixed race background. >> almost like you have some sort of kinship with the president. why did you do that? >> well, if i look at other presidents they're so remote from my own life. but with obama, i think a part of what makes him in